Reading Time: < 1 minute I spent years thinking James Cameron completely ignored the existence of the “mystery ship” that watched the Titanic sink in his 1997 blockbuster film.
I spent years thinking James Cameron completely ignored the existence of the “mystery ship” that watched the Titanic sink in his 1997 blockbuster film. While he omitted a key scene that included the Californian in the story, he did leave in the “Light on the Horizon”, albeit scarcely.
Have a look.
DO MORE OF THIS! This was so funny, should do crew challenges with this
Cutie 🙂
Califournian did not rescue titanic survivors It’s Carpathia
That is correct. What the video is stating is the Californian could have saved hundreds more had they responded to the distress signals. They could have arrived at the scene of the sinking in time to rescue many of the people who never made it into lifeboats. Of course, this is part of the century-long debate that has two sides; those who support Californian’s captain, Stanley Lord, and those who don’t. The “Lordites” will argue there still wasn’t sufficient time to get there (some don’t believe the “mystery” ship was even the Californian to begin with) while the “anti-Lordites” recognize all evidence supports the theory that the ship was in view, thus could have made it over to the Titanic before she foundered. Californian was less than 20 miles away (some argue less than 10) while the Carpathia was 50 miles away.
Dr. Joseph Gobbels 1943 Titanic had the Californian in it.
dr paul lee , a titanic expert, estimates californian was somwhere betweeb
14 1/2-16 1/2 miles away north-north west of the titanic, in the middle if
not at the other (northern) edge of the ice field…
How the heck were we the audience except to see that! It was so tiny and it
only blink for a second at the end of a scene. James Cameron, you are just
trolling us.
Mr. Kayoss, do you think James Cameron made it so inconspicuous because he
didn’t think that it was the Californian? The third-ship mystery has always
intrigued me the most about the Titanic story. I’m curious as to whether
you believe the ship was the Californian, or if it was perhaps another ship
that was seen from both ships? Most of the research I’ve read about this
mystery is that the ship seen by both ships was small and appeared to be
moving, and if that is to be believed, then there’s no way that Titanic was
the ship seen by the Californian, and vice versa, as both ships were
stopped and motionless. A ship that frequently comes up when this
mysterious theory is evoked is the Samson, a Norwegian schooner that was
allegedly sealing illegally in the area, although if you dig really deep,
you’ll see that it could not have been it. I’m just curious if you believe
that the Californian was the ship seen by many on the Titanic, or if you
believe any other possibilities for another ship? Other ships commonly said
to have been this mystery ship include the Mt. Temple, the Dorothy Baird,
and the Frankfurt. Just curious to hear your take, from one Titanic buff to
another. Thanks for uploading!
ya wish it had been in it more- The Californian is one of the biggest parts
of the story- leaving that out is always a mistake. I also had never
spotted the Californian in the film until I just say that
Isnt “would you like to know more?” a quote from Starship Troopers?
What is the melody played in the end before the end rockmusic?
reallly fuunnyy hHAHAHAHAA!
your voice is both so creepy and sexy!
decay level-ajay devgan….is the best….
the best video from all india bakchod….(y)
Your voice omg wow I can’t even. Love the video by the way. I find Titanic
very interesting and enjoy seeing all of the documentaries here on YouTube
but damn your voice makes it even more interesting!
are you colour blind? stop making run of your own race you cunt
While its plausible the blinking light may of been the Californian, I’d
have to see the actual source where James Cameron himself acknowledges
that. And if it *was* intended to be the Californian. My question would be
why there wasn’t a scene (included or deleted) showing captain smith and
another crew member noticing it and having some dialog about what ship it
was.
My issue here is the light from the Californian is on the wrong side of the
ship. The light was seen about 2° off the port bow, not starboard. Which
also means Cameron’s Titanic is pointing in the wrong direction when she
sinks.
Via the book *The Ship That Stood Still*
Do you know why Cameron built its Titanic’s Film Studios in Rosarito Beach
(Mexico)??? Because it was closer to the “Californian”!!! 😉
Cameron’s omission is a major smoking gun that he was being stage managed
by certain powerful interests who would “Prefer” that this be omitted. That
blinking light may have well as been a lightning bug or a star on the
horizon for Christ’s sake. This is no small detail, IT’S HUGE because it
adds an element of hope for those in peril. How could Cameron justify this
omission, answer he didn’t – He was instructed / advised to. The truth is
JP Morgan arranged to have the Titanic sunk (Actually the Olympic, it was
switched before the voyage but that’s another story), it was an elaborate
scheme to get Astor, Guggenheim and Straus out of the way as they were
blocking the banking act which would a year later be rushed thru congress
(With the big 3 out of the way). Of course it was also an insurance fraud
scheme as the Olympic had suffered 3 disasterous accidental collisions and
they wanted to collect on the policy, so changed the name plates and other
identifying features which took only a few weeks in Belfast. Cameron also
leaves out several other very damning pieces of testimony / evidence such
as if we are to believe that the spotters sighted the iceburg only a minute
or so before it struck then why did numerous passengers who survived say
that they saw that iceburg a good 20 minutes before the collision? Answer:
Because (Most likely) Murdock was in on the conspiracy and was following
orders. It’s also a fact that Murdock waited 30 critical seconds before
giving the order to turn hard to port. There’s a lot more I could add but
this is enough to show that Cameron was actively concealing the truth and
promoting “The official version” in his film.
You can see it again after they fire the flare in that scene 🙂 That way
you know it’s not a bug …it’s placed there on purpose 😀
May you live to see a relative marry a negro stawmanII
there is a deleted scene on James movie that takes on board the califonian
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I heard a survivor in another video say that the Californian came close
enough that it could be clearly seen without binoculers…and that they
could actually sort of make out a figure walking on the deck….and it is
said that it was after the very Rude comments recieved from Titanic that
the operator on the Californian decided enough was enough, decided not to
recharge the wireless, and went to bed instead….
3:21 I would totally freak out if Molly Brown said her line with that
voice xD
x cuanto tiempo hay q escuchar el audio tengo entendido q es una hora al
dia pero x cuantos dias
The criticism of the Californian should not be one of “could she have saved
everybody?”, or even “could she have saved more?” It is, “should she have
tried?”
If we assume that the Californian had a more motivated bridge staff, and
leave all other factors “as-is” (ie, the Californian’s radio going offline
at midnight, etc.) we can construct the following timeline (assumes average
of 7 minutes between rockets):
00:00 — Californian’s radio shuts down for the night
00:15 — Titanic sends first distress call
00:45 — Titanic fires first distress rocket (as it is the first, the
officers on the Californian aren’t sure what they saw. They watch the ship
in the distance more closely.)
00:52 — Titanic fires second distress rocket. Californian bridge watch
now knows they are seeing rockets and calls the captain to the bridge
00:59 — Captain Lord sees the third rocket for himself. He orders the
wireless operator awakened immediately.
01:05 — Wireless operator (Evans) reports Titanic is sinking and gives
coordinates. This presents a problem, as the coordinates are 13 miles to
the west and the ship they can see is to the south. Lord orders Evans to
ask Titanic if she is firing rockets, and orders the engine room to be
ready to get underway.
01:10 — Evans confirms Titanic is firing rockets. Lord decides to ignore
the SOS coordinates and steam for the ship he can see firing rockets.
At this point, the Titanic has only 70 minutes to live, and the Californian
is just getting underway. Even if she is in clear water in 10 minutes and
is able to make her top speed of 11 knots (and assuming the Titanic is only
8 miles away – my personal belief), he would arrive no earlier than 02:05.
At that point, it’s too late to come alongside the much-larger Titanic and
attempt to transfer people directly from ship-to-ship. Also, the
Californian’s crew is too small to get more than three or four of their own
lifeboats into the water for rescue work. The best that could be hoped for
would be to hove to perhaps 100 yards alongside the Titanic and hope to
rescue the hardiest of the swimmers. In all likelihood, they may have
saved 100-200 at the most. (And would’ve had a ringside seat for the
breakup, so at least *that* point wouldn’t have been debated until 1985…)
Mollly Brown “there’s something you don’t see every day.” she has just seen
the Californian
Die Kalifornier sind stinkverlogen, die Titanic ist in der Werft namens
white star line geboren, und falls es Kalifornien vergessen hat die Werft
in der die Titanic geboren war ist und bleibt ewige in England. In
Liverpool. Das ist und bleibt ewige der Heimat und Geburtsort der Titanic.
England kann ja auch als Spott sagen dass Doktor Mengele die Kalifornier
erschaffen hat nach dem Bild Auschwitz.
I spotted it in the film when I was just a kid. I used to be obsessed about
the Titanic and when I saw the little light in that scene I nearly flipped
from excitement.
Only two movies ever showed the so-called Californian incident in any
detail – A Night to Remember and the 1943 nazi effort Titanic. There’s
also a Douglas Fairbanks Presents 30 minutes episode of the 1950s called
Atlantic Night. Whether the mystery light was in fact the Californian is
problematical because some Titanic witnesses saw a stationary light, others
a moving one. The Californian was stationary all night. James Cameron’s
1997 movie ignored the Californian incident – excepting Lord Kayoss’ find
above – in order to avoid the public controversy and legal threats which
might have ensued from supporters of captain Lord, the captain of the
Californian.
yes I agree the BEST film I have ever seen on the titanic is
the one done in 1958 that had keneth more in it,,called a
night to remember it had much more detail as to what really
happend,,,,the titanic film that had robert wagner in and barbara
stynwick 1953 I didnt like because basically in my opion that
filmed focused mainly on peoples behavior and how they acted of
around 1912,,,didnt really focus on the ship,,,and the movie that
leanordo dicaperio was in I didnt like because all that mainly
focused on was 2 ficitinol lovers,,,that wasnt about titanic at
all ,,,, all that was ,, ,,was a love story,,,that never took
place,,,the film was fiction,,,only truth to lenordeos film is
titanic hit an ice berg and sank thats the only truth in
it,,,,YES the BEST FILM ON TITANIC I HAVE EVER SEEN SO FAR IS
,,,,A NIGHT TO REMEMBER 1958 HAD KENENTH MORE IN IT,,,,,
We know LORD KAYOSS said in this video that it can be seen on the Blu-ray,
but was anyone able to see it on a REGULAR dvd; a disc that’s NOT Blu-ray?
If you think you can find the “Light on the Horizon” on the old VHS tape,
good luck. I already tried that just today.
I spotted it. Since I knew very little about the Titanic at the time, I
assumed it was the Carpathia, and wondered why it takes so long for them to
get there.
It is because of the scintillation that Californian did not come. They
could not read the Morse Code and never realized it was a sinking ship. A
cold-water mirage caused Titanic to look like a different ship. See
“Titanic’s Final Mystery” (also titled “Titanic: Case Closed’) for the
whole story. Man did 20 year study and read both inquiry transcripts.
I read a book and i know the reason because the californian thought is was
just a greetings
although it should of come to the titanic it woudnt be much help it was
only a 6 tone ship it would proberbly only save about 200-300 souls but
that is a big bunch of people bare in mind
james camerons film actually was the first titanic movie i ever saw, and it
inspired me to read and look into the titanic, i haven yet got to see a
night to remember, but i have been to the museum, and bought tons of books,
and before she died my great grandma, salvaged an actual newspaper that was
released after the sinking happened and does anyone know a place where i
can watch a night to remmeber? cause i dont own it and no stores around me
sell it.
At least Cameron’s movie had the break in half part because other titanic
movies I have seen don’t include that part
Dr juror
How the fuck did u get to this? Anyways, your voice was amacing over Molly
Brown haha!! 😉
Great. Now find Pitman because that’s been driving me nuts since 1997.
love your narrating voice!
that was not the Californian she was 19 miles away